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Yes, we should give it up. No, we should not give it up.
Debate Score:21
Arguments:22
Total Votes:21
Ended:06/02/18
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Topic #3: Should we give up our individual privacy for the safety of the nation?

Yes, we should give it up.

Side Score: 8
VS.

No, we should not give it up.

Side Score: 13
Winning Side!
1 point

Hussain, Adam

Opening statement:

Yes, we should give up our privacy, because it will be safer for citizens and the police can track people that can cause harm like terrorism, murder, homicide etc.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
zaina21(10) Disputed
1 point

As I said earlier data can fall into the hands of a wrong person, which could lead to violence

Side: No, we should not give it up.
zaina21(10) Clarified
1 point

In our century everyone is online and on their electronic devices, which means that all our personal information is online.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
Hussyeezy27(8) Disputed
1 point

How could the information fall into the hands? it wouldn't because the government keeps it to a limit on a appropriate level.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
1 point

Argument 1:

The violation of privacy does protect the civilians are protected under the people that bring harm for example them and other innocents.

FBI -"The alleged terrorists on this list are charged with federal crimes in the United States, as indicated on their wanted posters. The pending charges listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future charges may result as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001."

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
emaaniololzi(13) Disputed
1 point

Violation of privacy does not affect the "protection of civilians". Each time an administration expels privacy from its people, it ends up dictatorial. From Greece and Rome through to today. More regular people have passed away on account of their own governments, for the sake of "well being", than from the first issue those legislatures were implying to protect the citizens from.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-Europe/Greeks-Romans-and-barbarians

Side: No, we should not give it up.
Hussyeezy27(8) Disputed
1 point

It would not cause violence it prevents future violence such as many school shootings were prevented by fbi stopping and spying on possible shooters.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
zaina21(10) Disputed
1 point

The violation of privacy can harm the civilians because all of their personal information is on the internet and can be accessed by people who could be using it for other reasons than trying to help protect the country.

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

Argument 2:

The Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution is the section of the Bill of Rights that protects people from being searched or having their things taken away from them without any good reason and prevents tragedies. Citizens loved ones and offsprings that target them can be protected from potential acts of terrorism.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
zaina21(10) Disputed
1 point

53 percent of people have voted that yes privacy and freedom is more important than security, and 47 percent have voted the opposite, which proves more people care about their privacy.

Link:

https://debatewise.org/debates/3040-privacy-vs-security/

Side: No, we should not give it up.
zaina21(10) Disputed
1 point

Everyone has a right to do whatever they want on the internet as long as its legal, without the government having to monitor them. When the government has to monitor people's privacy the government is stopping the freedom of people.

Link:

http://www.debate.org/debates/Privacy-should-be-valued-over-security/1/

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

closing statement:

All in all we should give up our individual privacy for the safety of the nation.

Protects privacy of the citizens by secure a person's, property, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.

This is why we should give up our privacy for the nation because citizens can be safer because the police etc. can track people that can cause harm like terrorism, murder, homicide etc.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.

Opening Statement: Zaina & Emaan

Individual freedom is one of the rights upon which the United States of America was based. Our individual privacy should not be given up for the safety of the nation. To start off, even if this amendment is discarded it's not possible for a government and nation to keep terrible things from happening. Next, information could fall into the hands of the wrong people. Overall, our privacy should not be held in the government's hands.

Side: No, we should not give it up.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” said Benjamin Franklin. It's not possible for a nation to keep terrible things from happening constantly, this is a reality that will never show signs of change, regardless of any laws set up for the sake of national security. The flexibility of the individual ought to dependably be secured, and surrendering it or minimizing it for a bureaucratic approach isn't practical. On the off chance that administrations need to advance national security, they should begin with a remote strategy. Trust that a country without singular rights is certainly not a free country, and all over is anything but a sheltered country in any case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/11/11/liberty-safety-and-benjamin-franklin/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c2d8de7d7f5f

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

Agreeing with this statment it is not possible to keep way horrible things from happening.

This would not help the United States prevent future terrorist attacks, because the majority of the citizens (57%) say that the leaks about the observations the government makes using their personal privacy would not help the US stop future terrorist attacks, because they would not find anything they could be looking for in people's privacy.

Link:

https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/ 09/17/what-is-more-important-our-privacy-or-national-security/

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

Earlier this year, Edward J. Snowden, a government contractor, leaked classified documents to the news media that revealed the existence of top-secret government surveillance programs.

Link:

https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/ 09/17/what-is-more-important-our-privacy-or-national-security/

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

Argument 2:Everyone has a right to do whatever they want on the internet as long as its legal, without the government having to monitor them. When the government has to monitor people's privacy the government is stopping the freedom of people. Six out of 10 citizens of the United states said they disapprove with the government being able to check their personal privacy, and at the end of the day if the citizens are unhappy with the laws that could anger towards the government and have many protest and could cause violence.

Link:

http://www.debate.org/debates/Privacy-should-be-valued-over-security/1/

Side: No, we should not give it up.
Hussyeezy27(8) Disputed
1 point

It would not cause violence it prevents future violence such as many school shootings were prevented by fbi stopping and spying on possible shooters.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.

"Those organizations all map social graphs to see how people of interest relate to each other, and subsequently investigate their friends, followers, and others in their networks," Rainey Reitman, Activism Director at the EFF. Most of the time the government doesn't give valid reason for the reason they collect their information. As well as, the often do not get a court order. National security ought not be utilized as a convenient excuse to damage singular rights, in light of the fact that those rights characterize the country and make it. In the event that those rights are demolished, even with great expectations, you have viably ruined the country.

https://lifehacker.com/5904966/why-you-should-care-about-and-defend-your-privacy

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

Closing sentence: People privacy is precise and can be put into the wrong hands and used for wrong reasons. We have all our personal information online and should not be afraid of strange people stalking our data. This is why we should not give up our privacy for the nation.

Side: No, we should not give it up.